This is the second part of an interview between Ulsterman and the White House Insider and was posted in The Ulsterman Report. Naturally I can’t verify the information so you will have to take it for what it is worth. I will say this about it however; it fits very closely the scenario that has been playing in my head for some time now. At this point you could say, what the hell do I know and you would be correct. I don’t know a helluva lot but I certainly believe that this interview is very close to the truth. So as the Insider says “stay out of Chicago.”
NOTE: This is Part Two of our latest sit down interview with a longtime D.C. political operative who has given insights into the workings of the Obama White House that have time and again later proven accurate by subsequent Mainstream Media reports.
WHI…Obama loves them drones. He has made them a personal priority above all else.
The question that is also the answer to so much of this then – is WHY? From there…I got the goods…I told you what their re-election plan was. How they are gonna use race, division, chaos…that’s the re-election plan. Folks are talking now…from inside the administration. And they are afraid. Sh-t ain’t right. Where they wanna take us – and it’s got people upset. Military had wind of it first…the Old Man knew…now it’s spreading. Not about the election campaign -the second term plan. There’s denials being sent back…but nobody trusts them now. And the ones who do…they are in on it themselves. Others…like me…you might see us smilin’ and noddin’…but know that’s just the public face we are putting on. We gotta do that to maintain access. Don’t let that throw you – you’re gonna see more and more of that in the coming months. That just needs to be done. We lose our access…makes it a hell of a lot tougher to plan, right? So you may see me saying one thing…I’m doing it different. You gotta trust me on that. There will come a time in all of this…it’s gonna get tough, it’s gonna get weird…you’re gonna feel used up. Betrayed. When we reach that point, and we will – I’m tellin’ you now – we will reach that point…trust is what will keep it all together. If we don’t have that…they win. And if they win – we all are gonna lose and lose hard.
The country’s really in the sh-t now…and the papers runnin’ low…
UM: I need to your to expand on the Drone thing – Obama’s love of using the drones. You say you “got the goods” – your words. What do you mean?
WHI: It’s what has been brewin’ for well over a year now…it’s causing all kinds of hell between the administration…the military…infighting and concern among the staff…even Jarrett don’t have a handle on all of it. Even she is not entirely comfortable with how the president has sunk his teeth into the drones…the kill list. She’s not bothered by their use specifically…she’s more…I would guess she’s more worried over the political implications of Obama’s obsession…that eventually enough people will stand together and say ENOUGH. She can’t afford to have that happen too soon…the re-election makes them all vulnerable…the plans…the obligations to others…America can still stop them in 2012 and she understands that. So having Obama so oddly focused…not just focused…he gets excited…visually…the guy gets off on it and he ain’t even hiding that fact anymore. And some are repulsed by it. They’ve done video reviews you know…of the missions. The drones. The kills.
UM: The president you mean? He watches videos of the drone attacks?
WHI: Yeah – like it was…like it was porn. I can’t emphasize…I don’t think I’m painting a clear enough picture here for you of how this thing has people really freaking out inside the administration. It’s good on one hand because it’s got more of them willing to talk…but…the fact it’s gotten this bad…these drones…an American president who has the video sent up to his personal study so he can watch them over and over again…like I said – sh-t ain’t right. And more and more people are figuring that out – and that is what has Jarrett concerned. But even she…Obama won’t listen to her on this one. Those drones are the one thing he really feels he has control over…all the rest…he’s been told what to say and where to go…when to wake…when to sleep…but the drones. The drones are all his – and he ain’t given those up. For nobody.
UM: So Jarrett is against the use of drones?
WHI: No-no-no…I ain’t said that. Far from it. The drones are all part of this…the big big picture here…what she’s concerned over is that her boy…the president…he’s gotta get it under control…his obsession with using them like he has. The weekly meetings, the kill list…I mean c’mon now…he’s got his own personal kill list. The guy who campaigned against Bush era interrogations…Obama don’t interrogate. He picks a name off a list…some of these people have beenU.S. citizens…he picks that name off a list and orders the kill. Then he gets the video confirmation of the kill…and he watches it. Over and over and over again.
Jarrett knows she has got to tap that down. That kind of display…it’s repulsive to people. And it’s freaking them out. Jarrett don’t mind the drones…she approves of the program…she approves of what…of how they will be utilized at home. But if the president…if his reaction to using them…how he gets off on it…that endangers them having control of those drones after 2012…and beyond. It’s a politically difficult – an extremely difficult argument to win. A guy who complained loudly about water boarding – it don’t kill the poor bastard. It makes ‘em talk. Barack Obama declared that to be offensive to the ideals of America, right? But now Barack Obama…he’s judge and jury. With a pointing of a finger to names on a list…Barack Obama gets to play God. No day in court. No guarantee innocent people won’t be killed as well – and they have been killed. Children. Women. Over and over again. And this president…he has that knowledge when he watches the kill confirmations. And he watches it over and over again. These are high tech snuff films – a multi-billion dollar snuff program…and he gets off on it.
UM: This is sickening. What you’re telling me…this is disturbing on a whole other level.
WHI: (Points finger) THAT’S the reaction people are having to this – right there. And that’s the reaction Jarrett is worrying over. She’s gotta try and contain it – but the president’s obsession is becoming too much to do that. The knowledge of it – it’s getting out now. Reaching other world leaders…it ain’t good. Even if it might give us a political advantage…you want sickening? I think to myself…what I just told you…I ask myself what if we lose? What if this guy is re-elected? You call it a whole other level? Yeah – you say that…but you don’t really understand it. Those drones…their domestic use…don’t think he ain’t thought about it. A lot.
you see, Obama – he don’t trust the military. Not all of them…not many of them. But he trusts those drones, now don’t he? Don’t take him having to trust some military official to order troops to carry out an order inside the United States. It’s just inputting a bit of data – and the push of a button, right? And keep the f-cking military out of that equation there. Move the program…attach it directly to the White House. Make it…make it part of Homeland Security, right? Simple as that. One appropriations bill – just one…and it’s done.
…And Valerie Jarrett – she wants that. Her…the investors who are behind Obama…they are completely in favor of that.
UM: Of a domestic drone program? Why? What’s the purpose?
WHI: Same as everything else this administration has attempted to implement – control. Absolute and total f-cking control. No different than Obamacare…expansion of the EPA…all the czars…bypassing of Congressional oversight…it’s all about control. And in order to secure that control – you need chaos. That chaos gives the justification for the drones. And the Occupy bullsh-t, the race riot threats…think about that. Think about the timing of the domestic drone program…tie it in with all the manufactured chaos that’s comin’. His calls for a citizen police force that was equal to the United States military. Obama said it himself, right? Before he was elected? He said it. His wife said it.
UM: Said what?
WHI: Do you know Michelle Obama…it was in ’08…she was speaking…some campaign stop…she got up from her chair and began to say how America needed to change its traditions – how it needed to change its history. That got some of us concerned at the time. That kind of thing…in a normal campaign you would have seen the media jumping all over it. Didn’t happen this time though. And when people went back to the campaign and expressed concern about those kinds of things – how the Obama’s were repeating their desire to change everything about America…we were told to shut up. That language was supported by on high.
UM: On high?
WHI: Jarrett. She wanted that language to be part of the campaign trail. That language…it sent word back to their investors that they were in fact the real deal. Now I didn’t realize this at the time…too damn busy. The campaign. But hindsight, right? Looking back, you start to piece the puzzle together…now I understand what she was doing – what Jarrett was doing. She was keeping those dollars flowing into the campaign…into the media control mechanism they had set up…letting the investors know their time had come. This candidate – this Barack Obama – he was gonna implement what they had wanted…what they had planned for – for a very long time. Five days out – Obama re-affirmed that promise. He said it, right? “Fundamentally transform the United States of America”.
UM: Who are “they”?
WHI: I already told you…the socialists…Marxists…globalists, progressives, Big Labor, Green Energy…just different sides of the same fact.
UM: You have to be more specific. Lots of people can and will say what you just did.
WHI: Difference is – when I say it…you know it’s fact. You know it’s about to play out like I’m telling you.
WHI: You’re doubting what I’m telling you?
UM: (Pause) You haven’t told me much to doubt. Regarding the investors you are talking about here – I want to know who they are. Give me names.
WHI: (Voice raises) You were given a name. Hell, you wrote about that name and did a good job of it. The Old Man told you – you wanna accuse him of not telling you much? You wanna insult him like you just insulted me?
UM: No insult was intended. What is the name that you’re talking about here?
WHI: You were told about Gerard. He’s a kingmaker in all of this. You wanna know somebody who can make Valerie Jarrett sh-t all over herself? Leo Gerard would be one of those people. You get beyond him and you’re dealing with a level neither one of us can understand – or would want to. That’s for the Old Man to throw punches – we ain’t never gonna be in that world. Leo Gerard – The Man Who Controls The Obama Agenda
UM: Ok – Gerard. Yes – we talked about him. Jarrett answers to him?
WHI: He would be one – absolutely. He’s Big Labor on an international level. He’s got use of American military, American influence, American intelligence…those things are at his disposal if need be. Globalist…the desire to place the world under the banner of Big Labor. The expansion into Brazil…Africa…follow the crumbs man. It’s all there. But try and get the kind of information that can burn them – the stuff that you could send to the Hill…as long as Eric Holder is holding the line…very tough. And very dangerous. That’s why I’m telling you to stay out of Chicago. That’s why I’m staying out of there.
UM: You got spooked. Why?
WHI: The body count got a little high for my personal comfort. I’d ain’t quite reached as ripe an old age as I would like – not just yet.
UM: Don’t talk in circles – explain it to me.
WHI: Like we explained Gerard to you? You paid attention to that for what? About a week? Then what? You forgot all about it? That’s what they are counting on you know? America will forget. Lose focus. Shrug it shoulders. Say whatever. And before they get back to paying attention again – too late. For all of us. I been sayin’ for a long time – few things in this world more stupid than the American voter. Poor dumb bastards.
UM: I have some readers I think would prove you wrong on that.
WHI: Sh-t. You think so? How many times I gotta tell you – this ain’t about your f-cking readers. This ain’t about you. This is…you know what this is. What it’s always been.
UM: Say it. Tell me what this is about.
WHI: (Long sigh) You know.
UM: Fine – say it. I want them to know.
WHI: Exactly. THEM. This has always been about letting them know – we got their number. They can’t hide everything. The information is getting out…they have threatened. They have fired. Hell…they’ve silenced some of us permanently. But the information is still getting out – and it’s driving them crazy. It’s making them sloppy. It’s giving us an advantage. The Old Man said it – this is a war we are fighting here. Call it us against them – good vs evil…whatever. Call it whatever. I don’t give a sh-t what you wanna call it – just as long as we win and they lose, because if they win – it’s like Obama said himself – the fundamental transformation of America. They gonna tell us what to think. What to eat. What to drink. What to read. What to watch. And if somebody don’t like that…then you’ll be on a list now won’t you. And an order will be given. And later, sitting up in some second floor study will be that skinny ass Manchurian piece of sh-t playing it over and over again.
UM: What spooked you in Chicago?
WHI: You don’t need to know that.
UM: Did you tell –name deleted-?
WHI: The Old Man knows – he told me to leave it alone. Told me to tell you. Ain’t worth it. Nothin’ will come of it – nobody willing to take that ball and run. So we would just be…it would leave us too exposed. If it wasn’t part of the Blago thing…it ain’t gonna see the light of day. Not now.
UM: Chicago. Vegas…is that part of it?
WHI: You been lookin’? Was that you?
WHI: Don’t. Leave it. I mean that. Not gonna have that on my hands. Leave it alone. And don’t make it part of this – leave it out.
UM: No – this stays in.
UM: I have my own reasons.
WHI: You wanna explain that?
UM: As soon as you tell me what you’re backing away from in Chicago.
WHI: I ain’t playing here – this is done now. Leave it.
UM: It’s much bigger than Chicago…and I think it connects directly to the stimulus funds. They took what was being done back then and applied it at the federal level – so it ties directly to the administration, right? -Name deleted- has always said it was Solyndra that could bring down the administration – what Solyndra represented, right?
And I think that’s what you came across in Chicago– the dots connected. Big time.
WHI: We’re done.
UM: Jarrett. Michelle. The hospitals. Rezko. Labor unions. Auchi. 8th Ward. Fitzgerald. Daley. Cook—–
WHI: (interrupts) Stop it – NOW. Leave. It. Alone. You’re a f-cking bug. An ant. You won’t be missed. Those readers of yours? They could give a sh-t. Here or not here. They could give a sh-t. Dancing with the F-cking Stars they care about. You – not so much. You understand that? This ain’t about you. It sure as hell ain’t about them. Grow up. Shut your mouth and print what I tell you to print. No less. No more. Do it like I say or I find someone else who will. God-mmit you are gonna get yourself hurt in a bad way, son.
Don’t let your ego take over for good sense, right? If I tell you to leave it alone – you best believe I know what I’m sayin’ in that. We’ve gone over the body count. You ain’t even gonna make that list. That’s how insignificant you are. That’s why you get away with what you do. It’s the entire premise of plausible deniability we talked about on day f-cking one. So step down, shut up, and follow my lead. I can’t save you from stupid – and that’s what you got going in this.
Stop playing detective and shut the f-ck up. I mean it…
NOTE: I wish to make clear I do not share WHI’s views regarding those who read these reports – some of you are among the best and brightest as we work together to ensure Barack Obama’s defeat in 2012. -UM